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Grizzly G0586 8" Jointer w/2 HP Motor | 
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| Brand: Grizzly
Category: Home Improvement
Buy New: $695.00
Rating:  17 reviews
Sales Rank: 14505
Media: Misc.
MPN: G0586
UPC: 690550005862
EAN: 0690550005862
ASIN: B00094OQV6
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days
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| Customer Reviews: Read 12 more reviews...
 Another satisfied customer April 2, 2008
Stephen M. Ash (Novato, CA United States)
1 out of 2 found this review helpful
There isn't much I can add to the already glowing reviews of this fine machine.
In setting up my delivery, the reps at Grizzly's customer service were a pleasure to deal with (as they always are). Delivery was with FedEx freight, and it went smoothly. I ordered the liftgate option for $20 extra, and the driver delivered the two boxes into my garage.
Assembly was straightforward. I was able to lift the jointer onto the base with just one helper. Yes it's heavy, but it was manageable for a simple up-and-over move from the crate up onto the base. The only tricky part was aligning the pullies. This required adjusting the position of the motor, which is very heavy and is secured with bolts on a sloped face of the base. When the bolts are loose, the motor tends to want to slide down this sloped surface, and that worsens the alignment. I rigged a small floor jack to support the motor, and it worked out fine.
The tables are flat to within 0.0015", and the machine setup from the factory was perfect. The powder coated paint and Grizzly badge are also particularly nice.
I, too, was thrown by the 'off' button. As another reviewer pointed out, the 'off' button has a safety lock that needs to be released before the 'on' button will actually kick the machine on, and this is not mentioned anywhere in the manual. The first time I tried to fire the machine up, it didn't turn on because this safety was still engaged, and so I scrambled to recheck my wiring until I finally discovered this feature about the 'off' button.
To sum up, this machine is outstanding, and does everything I need, and for nearly half the cost of some others in its class. This purchase was a no brainer.
 Great machine - Bad castings March 5, 2008
Michael R Roth
3 out of 3 found this review helpful
I owned a 0586 for about 1 1/2 Years and it was a very nice machine. It cut very well as i had a straight knife version. I couldn't justify the spiral cutter head as i don't use figured woods much. I really like the fence system ,very smooth and easy to use. The problem I had was one of the castings warped and the machine was rendered pretty much worthless. I too looked up in the manual for gib adjustments and did'nt find any. After calling Grizzly tech support, I found out their is no adjustment on this machine. The first guy i'd talked to told me he would talk to his boss about working out some kind of a deal on a new unit. I never heard anything back from dude so i called again.The next person i talked to told me to use the ole' soda can trick.The casting was so warped there was no way shimming would have worked. So after talking to about 10 people from Grizzly they finally agreed to honor the machines warranty ,even though it was out of warranty, and replaced the machine with a 0490 parrellegram machine.That says alot about Grizzly and taking care of the customer. If it wasn't for the warped casting problem, I would have given this machine 5 Stars because it really is a nice machine.
Very satisfied with my first grizzly product January 27, 2008
William A. Vanvugt (rochester, mn)
2 out of 2 found this review helpful
I can't find much to add to the other reviews, certainly no negative comments. The jointer was delivered to my house in a semi which made it interesting since I live on a cul de sac and this required some maneuvering by the driver to miss the mail boxes. We slid the two crates onto the lift bad, lowered them down to my son's pickup and drove down the driveway. I used an engine hoist to lift the crate containing the bed (highly recommend this tool for addition to a shop) and rolled the jointer into the shop. After removing the crate I used the hoist again to lift the bed unto the base. I would recommend wiring the switch to the motor before attaching the bed since the ground wire is difficult to attach without tipping the base forward. I eventually removed the bed and tipped the base forward to attach the wire. Everything was aligned when I checked the machine and ran a few boards through it. I bought this tool based on the fine woodworking review and since I was saving so much over the Powermatic jointer I added the spiral cutterhead. Grizzly needs to promote the spiral cutterhead more. Rotating the carbide cutters is so much better than setting knives.
Customer participation required December 22, 2007
Joseph P. Zeh (Worthington, MA)
17 out of 18 found this review helpful
I recently purchased a Grizzly Model G0586 8" jointer to replace my Powermatic 54A 6" jointer. The 54A was a workhorse. Its infeed and outfeed beds were dead on coplanar and the its long fence was easily adjustable to a 90 degree stop. Replacing it was simply a need for a larger jointer, not any dissatisfaction. So when choosing a new jointer I started by researching the Powermatic line first. But good reviews on the G0586 and its price - about $200 cheaper than the 54A - forced me to take a look. In the end, having never owned a Grizzly and the attractive price, convinced me I should take a chance and expand my horizons. The results of my decision are mixed.
I received the jointer about two days after ordering it. I had expected a delivery time measured in weeks, so you can imagine my surprise when a 53' tractor-trailer stopped on my dirt road at the end of my dirt driveway. Fortunately I had two friends available to help me unload it onto a pickup truck and drive it to my shop.
I inspected the two packages in front of the driver and found no damage (the base and motor in one package and the bed and fence in another). Not even a hint of mishandling. However, when I removed the base from its box I noticed a bend and some paint chipping near the back access panel. The damage was not serious and I concluded that this is a woodworking shop, not a beauty parlor, so I got out my dead blow and straightened it out. Problem solved. Apparently this mishandling occurred at the factory prior to packaging.
The packaging itself was quite substantial. Tar paper was used to protect the bed from scratches and other damage. The bed and fence were covered with a waxy oil to avoid moisture damage. It was easily removed with mineral spirits. The fit and finish was excellent.
Assembly requires two people, both for physical reasons and to help align the belts, but was in all respects simple and the directions were well written. The knives were preinstalled, very sharp due to a good factory honing, and exactly aligned with the outfeed table height.
That's where my problems began. When I tried my first cuts I noticed that after several passes beyond flat the stock began to lift off the infeed table at the far out end. This is a classic jointer problem which is usually easily adjusted out. But I found no information in the manual's adjustments section that addressed this. The only mention of the problem was this one entry in the Troubleshooting Guide:
"Board edge is concave or convex after jointing."
The proposed fixes were:
1. Board not held with even pressure on infeed and outfeed table during cut.
2. Board started too uneven.
3. Board has excessive bow or twist along its length.
4. Insufficient number of passes.
Number three was particularly interesting since that is why we woodworkers buy jointers in the first place.
I proceeded with the rest of the adjustments with the knowledge that I could address this and any remaining issues with a quick call to technical support at the end.
My next problem was setting the 90 degree fence stop. Setting the infeed table perpendicular to the fence was simple but I quickly noticed that the outfeed table was not perpendicular to the fence. I then adjusted the outfeed table perpendicular to the fence and noticed that the infeed table was not. I use engineering squares for this purpose and they are extremely accurate. I consulted the manual and again found no help there.
Now I realized I had infeed and outfeed tables that were not coplanar. Worse, they were misaligned in two axes. It was time to call technical support. That was a very unsatisfying call. In conclusion it was suggested I use aluminum, cut from soda cans, to shim the outfeed table to achieve co planarity. Now, I have set up a number of jointers in my lifetime, and had to compensate for this particular problem on a few. The solution generally involved gib adjustment. So I decided to correct the problem with my own concocted procedure and achieved a certain amount of success adjusting only the gibs.
I still have infeed and outfeed tables that are not coplanar, but the misalignment now amounts to an idiosyncrasy of the tool which does not render it unusable. Some day I will find the time to shim the outfeed table and remove the remaining error. But for now I simply put all my pressure on the infeed table, none on the outfeed, and turn the board around on each pass. It works great.
I should mention that there are many things about this machine that are better than the 54A. The primary adjustments for depth-of-cut, fence movement back and forth and outfeed table height are smooth and have high resolution. The table is long, 75", making jointing of long boards easy. The machine is heavy and vibration free and it is very quiet.
The bottom line for me is this; if something costs much less than the competition there is probably something you are not getting. In this case it was co planarity and good technical support. That said, if I were making this purchase all over again, with this knowledge, I would have gone with a more expensive tool like the Powermatic. On the other hand, I have the tool and I am learning to like it, idiosyncrasy and all.
 Not bad for the price ... October 15, 2007
dusty
5 out of 7 found this review helpful
This is a nice jointer but you have to be prepared to spend some serious time setting it up. I am not going to complain about what it takes to assemble it: it is enough to say that I unloaded it off the truck and put on the base ALONE, without any help. No, I do not have a loader or any fancy lifts. It took a lot of time (about 2 hrs) and careful planning (to get the table out of the box and onto the base I suspended it between two workbenches on three nylon straps and carefully lifted one side at a time). And, no, I am not strong at all. Wiring the motor should be done before you put it on the stand---much easier to see what you are doing. Match the plug to the outlet you have in your shop (mine has 620's, not the 520 as the manual recommends). The pictures of the motor and the switch in the manual are mirrored so pay attention ...
I measured the tables and the fence and the tables came out to within .004 within flat and coplanar. The fence, however ... had a .012 dip and a a similar-sized twist in it. I am afraid that Grizzly will say it is `within tolerance' ...
The biggest problem is the pulley alignment. A review of G0593 (which is a spiral cutterhead version of this tool) mentions that it is almost impossible to align the pulleys on the motor and the cutter, and I would have to agree: I ended up moving both pulleys and reversing the one on the motor. There is still some vibration on startup and, especially, on shutdown. The fit an finish are really nice and the cuts smooth (square is another story). If not for these problems, I would give it a five-star. Now it has to sit for at least a week before I can figure out how to fix all the problems.
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